Sacrebleu! French schools ban ketchup

French schools ban ketchup, an American favorite condiment, as chefs claim there is too much sugar, fat, and salt in children's diets.  NBC's Kevin Tibbles reports.

To promote healthy eating, school lunchrooms in France are banning the use of ketchup. Watch the video for more, and tell us, what do you think about this? Are you a fan of ketchup?

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"Why are European schools banning ketchup?"??? Why is there ketchup in the schools anyway? It should be a treat, like a chocolate is. I'm from Portugal and I live in Britain. Never I seen ketchup in any school. Thank god schools here are only improving, and the deserts are always fruit except for one day a week, and 2/3 times a week the lunch is fish. Kids need to be educated, at home and in school, they are not born knowing what's best for them.

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Reply#1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:52 AM EDT

Cheese should be a desert not part of normal meals also by your reasoning.

Both cheese and ketchup are healthy in modest amounts as part of a balanced diet. But both can be extremely unhealthy is eaten to excess or as part an unhealthy diet.

So why do you just go away if your going to make extreme statements as a viled form of nationalism.

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#1.1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

Ketchup was considered a vegetable in schools during the Regan administration.

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#1.2 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT

How about the French making their smoking bans more widespread and increasing taxes on cigarettes? That would likely have more benefit than going after ketchup.

People can also get used to using alternative, healthier versions of foods such as low-sugar/low-salt ketchup, reduced fat butter, nonfat mayo, sugarfree beverages, lowfat salad dressings, whole grains, and lean proteins instead of sausage, foie gras, and processed deli meats. Portion control, combines with regular exercise, is also key.

Of course, these measures also work well in the U.S. and other countries with an overweight population.

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#1.3 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT

ttmadison -- The French live longer than we do, so maybe they know something we don't.

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#1.4 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:49 PM EDT

Aren't they mostly socialists? How could they ever know more than the freemarket?

I blame Occupy Wall-Street for this.

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#1.5 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:29 PM EDT

The schools in the US have ketchup available for students. I have no problem with it. It may not be the healthiest thing in the world, but it gets kids to eat their lunches. Chicken sandwhiches and hamburgers would be very dry and unappealing without it. And no, I don't see the lunch menus getting a huge revamp with restaurant quality meals. We're too broke.

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#1.6 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:15 AM EDT

In addition to banning ketchup - they should ban french fries (pomme frites) too. It's not like those are good for you.

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#1.7 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:58 PM EDT

Ketchup is a cooked tomato product. Mainly, it's acidity content is much too high. To illustrate my point, one time I did an experiment where I ate a whole unopened bottle of spaghetti sauce (probably Francesco Rinaldi mushroom flavored sauce) straight from the jar within about half an hour. After about half an hour to about an hour when I had to go urinate, I found urination somewhat painful, presumably because of the dramatically increased acidity of my urine stinging the walls of my urethra. Needless to say, I always remember this incident whenever I consume concentrated cooked tomato sauce products. Overacidity in the body is one of the primary causes of the promotion of disease according to alternative medicine theory. There are other ways of polluting the body, but overacidity is one of the chief factors that cause the body to break down and malfunction. You could also cite the high fructose corn syrup (sugar) content and perhaps the high salt content also as adding to the damage potential of this condiment.

    #1.8 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:37 PM EDT

    Harry, I'm glad you understand your body chemistry, but take it from me: TMI.

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    #1.9 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:14 PM EDT

    LeonorG: You consider ketchup a treat? I'm sorry to hear that.

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    #1.10 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT

    Harry, the reason your urination was painful might be because you "ate a whole unopened bottle of spaghetti sauce." Perhaps if you had opened the bottle and only consumed the contents, it would have been less painful. Shards of glass from that chewed-up bottle can be painful to your wee-wee.

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    #1.11 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

    Harry, unless your an uncontrolled diabetic, the kidneys simply don't process anything THAT quickly. There goes that theory.

      #1.12 - Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:10 AM EDT
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      Sacrebleu! is primarrily a French Canadian saying - its not said in France.

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      Reply#2 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:10 AM EDT

      Well, I do believe some people think Ketchup is a "vegetable." That is a funny article. But the French serve really fine lunches to their school children. Freshly made foods. I do not use ketchup, by the way.

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      Reply#3 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

      Ketchup is too fattening! But so is cheese, mayonaisse, french fries, cream sauces... sacre bleu, so many foods!

      The best is to just eat food (no oils or fats) boiled, with spices. Taste? Learn to love it.

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      Reply#4 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

      sorry ketsup is crap..

      cream sauces with fat fil up a person so they will not eat carbohydrates which turns into fat

      you just want to stay away from oils besides oilive and coconut

      burn fat calories then carbohydrate

      or carbohydrate turns into stored fat

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      #4.1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT

      stevchipmunk -- People need some fat. Boiling food in water sounds gross and you lose all the nutrients. By the way, as I mentioned before, the French live longer than we do; matter of fact, so do a lot of other people. With our miserable health care system and overly processed, fatty, salty and overly sweet food, we don't stand a chance.

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      #4.2 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:55 PM EDT

      Henry - coconut oil is terrible for you. It's right up there with palm oil on the list of unhealthy oils.

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      #4.3 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:22 PM EDT

      Dear God no... not another know-nothing food nazi. There is nothing wrong with ketchup (unless it contains preservatives). In fact, it contains a huge amount of lycopene, a healthy antioxidant that supports good vision, that is also primarily found in tomatos ( a veg that most kids do not like). Processing tomato into sauce (or ketchup) significantly IMPROVES the lycopene content. Further, boiling vegatable decreases their nutritive content, so is a POOR way to prepare vegetables. Further, many nutrient REQUIRE there is be fat aorund to be absorbed. Fat is NOT, in general, a bad thing at all, when consumed in proper amounts for your body size. Food morons like stevechipmunk might considering eating a few more calories so your brain can kick back in...

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      #4.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
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      I agree! There is too much sugar and salt in ketchup rendering it unhealthy. I started making my own and then Heinz came out with their Simply Heinz product that has less sugar and sodium. So now I'm happy with the use of the product again. There are people who pile on the ketchup and don't ever taste the actual food they are eating.

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      Reply#5 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:07 PM EDT

      Not all schools serve fine healthy lunches. The school in my area serves our kids, premade breaded chicken nuggets, fish, veg with cheese sauce so in our area I don't feel bannign ketchup would really do much good. They do offer salad bar but even with that you have excess calories and fat. I would prefer they actually cook the food instead of just taking something frozen and heating it up. I agree our kids eat way to much fat, but when that is the only thing offered............

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      Reply#6 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

      The French are right on. Count the calories in ketchup. Way too much sugar.

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      Reply#7 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

      unfortunately its true, but can someone please pass the ketchup

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      Reply#8 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:33 PM EDT

      Ketchup is seen as an insult to the greatest chefs in the universe...the French.

      Just ask any of their egotistical cooks.

        Reply#9 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:51 PM EDT

        I like a small bit of it in my chili once in awhile, and it's a requirement for my meatloaf, otherwise I don't use it all that often anyway.

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        Reply#10 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

        Amazing that people think banning ketchup will make any difference.

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        Reply#11 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:01 PM EDT

        Amazing how people think serving kids crap doesn't affect them.

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        #11.1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT

        Sure it makes a difference but taking 1 crap item out of a multi-1000 item list of crap isn't going to make a difference.

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        #11.2 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:15 PM EDT

        So your solution is, since removing one crap item won't make a significant difference, you might as well keep serving it... Kinda like saying, Hell, I'm already and alcoholic and smoker... might as well use meth!

        One step at a time here people, if it's a step in the right direction, no matter how small, at least it's some movement!

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        #11.3 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:44 PM EDT

        do you realize you are comparing ketchup to methamphetamine? Really?

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        #11.4 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:20 PM EDT

        Travis, any food can be abused through over-eating! The mentality that says "Ban it all" is, quite frankly, a cop out! You can either ban the ketchup and hope the kid never takes off the school blinkers outside in the real world, or you can teach the kid moderation, a wonderful concept that applies to an amazingly huge segment of life! A little ketchup, like a little fun, can make life interesting (unless of course you're one of those stuffed shirts that thinks fun is sinful ... are you, Travis?) A lot of ketchup, like a lot of fun, can lead to trouble (so okay, you can't get pregnant from it, but still ...). Banning the "bad" from our kids' lives just sends them the message that we don't think they're capable of learning good choices ... not a message I plan to send to my kids.

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        #11.5 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:20 PM EDT
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        Finally!!! I amso on board with this way of eating. We are such an unhealthy Nation. Wake up America. That school lunch is how children are supposed to be eating, what happen? Let's take a tip from the French

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        Reply#12 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:06 PM EDT

        I hate to break it to you, but do you know why we don't just revolutionize American food in schools?

        When one party or another cuts education again, wonder why you voted for them. Processed food is cheaper to make, cheaper to prepare, and cheaper for the kids to waste. If we really cared, we could do something, but not for free.

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        #12.1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:36 PM EDT
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        Amen !!!! I agree with the French !! F*** the American Lifestyle of eating horrible foods in schools - I do believe good S*** starts with some drastic move - Maybe Americans would wake the hell up and live a little bit longer then dog years .lol

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        Reply#13 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT

        and for all who think that this wont make a difference - Thats ONLY WHAT YOU THINK !! Go have a happy meal and add on a couple more years to your negative way of eating and living - Then you can complain about health care cost and hope and pray that its eventually gonna away - America's 1# income - you guessed it !!! MEDICATION - keep feeding your children that crap and you will have them on the Money Train real soon !! Much Praises to the French Gov --- Save Your Children !! Save your Future -- ( America should pay CLOSE attention to things like this and how many kids grow up FAT

          Reply#14 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT

          Maybe they should just start eating better food that's actually food rather than all the processed crap they eat. Seriously, taking ketchup out of schools and hoping it'll make a difference is like taking table salt off~ Everything in america already has too much sodium in it, much more than you're going to add sprinkling a bit more on~

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          #14.1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT
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          Ketch-up is like Tabasco for adults. It gives a good taste but has no nutritional value, quite the opposite because of the sugar (no fat!!) content and some kids may overuse it. I would not ban it completely but I will definitely educate my kids to stay away from it. It is like soda, they should be banned in schools and if some parents allow it then they can always fill their fridge with plenty at home.

          We always read about autism, ADHD, precocious puberty, hyperactivity, learning disabilities etc related to food and yet, our shelves are packed with BPA, GMO, paraben, food coloring and endless sweetened, processed, fattened food.

          Go figure!

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          Reply#15 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT

          Things to come to U.S. - you WILL do what the gov. says. You DO NOT make your own choices !

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          Reply#16 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:49 PM EDT

          This fro the birthplace of the idea of individual liberty and laissez-faire. Governments around the world are gravitating toward tyranny. What is wrong with letting the people decide for themselves, or their own children, what they want to eat?

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          Reply#17 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:05 PM EDT

          Wow, how much ketchup are the French eating with their fries? Can that tablespoon of sweetened tomato sauce really be that fattening or bad for you? It sounds just a bit out there to me, but so does Michelle Obama when she puts her own kids on show and calls them fat. Maybe they'll ban ketchup at the White House. Where does it ever end?

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          Reply#18 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

          15 calories in a TBSP or packet of ketchup.

          Now shall I list the calories of all the cheeses, breads, sauces, and chocolate that French children have? In fact, one of the most popular after school snacks in France is a hunk of French bread with a piece of chocolate on it.

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          #18.1 - Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:35 AM EDT

          Agreed Lynseypug, the French may be healthier because they rely more on public transit instead of driving, have better healthcare or generally eat less. However, nobody ever thinks about what exactly constitute as FRENCH FOOD. French food, the general celebrated (northern) French cuisine is composed of meat, fat, and other variations of pot roast. What other country in the world comes up with such perverse food like foie gras (which btw, is made out of force fed goose). That stuff is fatty, fatty and more fatty. One tbsp of ketchup can hardly be worse than 2-3 slices of baguette or croissant (butter!!!!) with more butter or Nutella (sugar!!!!).

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          #18.2 - Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:42 AM EDT
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          How about everyone learning that dessert is spelled with 2 S's ? Forget ketchup.

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          Reply#19 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

          Better to ban the pommes frittes than the ketchup!

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          Reply#20 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

          Says the country that brought you:

          bisque

          a. A rich, creamy soup made from meat, fish, or shellfish.

          b. A thick cream soup made of puréed vegetables.

          crème brû·lée- a custard that has been sprinkled with sugar and placed under abroiler until a brown crust forms on top.

          pâ·té French Cookery. a paste or spread made of puréed or finelychopped liver, meat, fish, game, etc., served as an horsd'oeuvre.

          foie gras the liver of specially fattened geese or ducks, used as a tabledelicacy, especially in the form of a paste

          quiche a pielike dish consisting of an unsweetened pastry shell filled witha custard and usually containing cheese and other ingredients, asvegetables, seafood, or ham

          mousse a sweetened dessert with whipped cream as a base,often stabilized with gelatin and chilled in a mold:chocolate mousse.

          French cheeses

          1. Camembert (AOC)
          2. Brie de Meaux (AOC)
          3. Roquefort (AOC)
          4. Boursin
          5. Reblochon (AOC)
          6. Munster (AOC)
          7. Pont l'Évêque (AOC)
          8. Époisses (AOC)
          9. Chèvre
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          Reply#21 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:38 PM EDT

          OMG, this makes my mouth water. You forgot the wine by the way.

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          #21.1 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:01 PM EDT
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          It's a CONDIMENT!..... It's simply a thing to throw on another thing to add the flavor you want... when you want it... big deal.. let them ban it....

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          Reply#22 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

          Stupidest thing I ever heard. Absolutely bizarre. Yet another way to micromanage everyone. *eye roll* We get enough of that without targeting silly things like ketchup.

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          Reply#23 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

          I'm from PITTSBURGH PA, where it's a pre-requisite to a great sandwich! Want to go hearty-healthy? Eliminate your creams, souffles, croissants, and pastries, buds!

          GO HEINZ!

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          Reply#24 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

          I love ketchup. I'm so happy when I have a reason to eat it. Makes a nice base for home made BBQ sauce. Poor French kids.

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          Reply#25 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT
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